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		<title>By: Remixing God: A Special Theology of Relativity - Part 3 &#124; Rebel Zen</title>
		<link>http://www.rebelzen.com/2009/04/remixing-god-a-special-theology-of-relativity/comment-page-1/#comment-951</link>
		<dc:creator>Remixing God: A Special Theology of Relativity - Part 3 &#124; Rebel Zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 04:19:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Part Three (click here to go back to the start) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Musicians and Self-worth, Self-identity, Growing older, Lack of Focus &#124; Rebel Zen</title>
		<link>http://www.rebelzen.com/2009/04/remixing-god-a-special-theology-of-relativity/comment-page-1/#comment-940</link>
		<dc:creator>Musicians and Self-worth, Self-identity, Growing older, Lack of Focus &#124; Rebel Zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 02:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also partially fills in a gap in the Special Theology of Relativity series (which I will finish [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Remixing God: A Special Theology of Relativity - Part 2 &#124; Rebel Zen</title>
		<link>http://www.rebelzen.com/2009/04/remixing-god-a-special-theology-of-relativity/comment-page-1/#comment-910</link>
		<dc:creator>Remixing God: A Special Theology of Relativity - Part 2 &#124; Rebel Zen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 01:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Continued from Part One  [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Hilary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hilary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Apr 2009 02:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like Descartes&#039; method of establising truth: sitting with dressing gown and pipe in front of his fire and pondering. And he came up with, &#039;I think, therefore I am.&#039; And everything stemmed from that. Still does. So I&#039;m with you, Seamus, truth is relative. It&#039;s not out there, it&#039;s in here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like Descartes&#8217; method of establising truth: sitting with dressing gown and pipe in front of his fire and pondering. And he came up with, &#8216;I think, therefore I am.&#8217; And everything stemmed from that. Still does. So I&#8217;m with you, Seamus, truth is relative. It&#8217;s not out there, it&#8217;s in here.</p>
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		<title>By: Slings</title>
		<link>http://www.rebelzen.com/2009/04/remixing-god-a-special-theology-of-relativity/comment-page-1/#comment-898</link>
		<dc:creator>Slings</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 20:56:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way I understand Einstein (which I as well will not claim to do at any great length) it&#039;s us that inject the relativity into the equation. time and space are constants an the observers take on these massive constants is the relative part. a 4th dimensional being (if one indeed exists) would perceive time in a far different way than we three dimensional beings do. yet we would both observing the same phenomenon.
Wittgenstein discussed what he called &quot;family resemblance&quot; common characteristics certain things have that we use to categorize them (group them together), yet were somehow unquantifiable by language. He uses the example of games.
perceivable fact therefore has everything to do with everything. All cultures across human history have maintained certain absolutes with a family resemblance (not that there are not exceptions).the only way to discover these absolutes is to observe and catagorize common elements. We get as close as possible to truth (as we are all observing the same thing) by maintaining a broad community made up of a variety of these &quot;relative&quot; perspectives on the constant universe.
But perhaps I&#039;m getting ahead of your conclusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way I understand Einstein (which I as well will not claim to do at any great length) it&#8217;s us that inject the relativity into the equation. time and space are constants an the observers take on these massive constants is the relative part. a 4th dimensional being (if one indeed exists) would perceive time in a far different way than we three dimensional beings do. yet we would both observing the same phenomenon.<br />
Wittgenstein discussed what he called &#8220;family resemblance&#8221; common characteristics certain things have that we use to categorize them (group them together), yet were somehow unquantifiable by language. He uses the example of games.<br />
perceivable fact therefore has everything to do with everything. All cultures across human history have maintained certain absolutes with a family resemblance (not that there are not exceptions).the only way to discover these absolutes is to observe and catagorize common elements. We get as close as possible to truth (as we are all observing the same thing) by maintaining a broad community made up of a variety of these &#8220;relative&#8221; perspectives on the constant universe.<br />
But perhaps I&#8217;m getting ahead of your conclusion.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaushik</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaushik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 19:48:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We laugh at the fundies who defend their beliefs with menace and violence, but that when we look into ourselves, we find that energy exists in all of us. Try to give up a cherished belief or desire, and a visceral resistance comes up. My experience has be that Truth is not to be found in a belief in God; it is being present, here and now, that opens up the universe.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We laugh at the fundies who defend their beliefs with menace and violence, but that when we look into ourselves, we find that energy exists in all of us. Try to give up a cherished belief or desire, and a visceral resistance comes up. My experience has be that Truth is not to be found in a belief in God; it is being present, here and now, that opens up the universe.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 01:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I grew up in a very religious family. It didn&#039;t really bother me till I was about 13 years old. From that time till about 17 I started to question and no one had any sort of reasonable answer.

The bonus is I have extensive knowledge of the Bible. Particularly the creation story in Genesis which I&#039;ve thought about a lot in the light of many other religions and the myths of ancient civilizations and what they have to say. Genesis makes a lot of sense if it&#039;s not read literally.

I particularly like the taking of the knowledge of good and bad that cased humanity out of paradise. To me this is no different from Taoist or Buddhist wisdom of making no distinctions created out of limited perspective, no limited subjective judgments and instead letting go and taking on big mind and living in peace.

I highly recommend a book called The Mind of God: Science and the Search for Ultimate Meaning written by Paul Davies, Professor of Natural Philosophy at the University of Adelaide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in a very religious family. It didn&#8217;t really bother me till I was about 13 years old. From that time till about 17 I started to question and no one had any sort of reasonable answer.</p>
<p>The bonus is I have extensive knowledge of the Bible. Particularly the creation story in Genesis which I&#8217;ve thought about a lot in the light of many other religions and the myths of ancient civilizations and what they have to say. Genesis makes a lot of sense if it&#8217;s not read literally.</p>
<p>I particularly like the taking of the knowledge of good and bad that cased humanity out of paradise. To me this is no different from Taoist or Buddhist wisdom of making no distinctions created out of limited perspective, no limited subjective judgments and instead letting go and taking on big mind and living in peace.</p>
<p>I highly recommend a book called The Mind of God: Science and the Search for Ultimate Meaning written by Paul Davies, Professor of Natural Philosophy at the University of Adelaide.</p>
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		<title>By: Seamus Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Seamus Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Apr 2009 00:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Lola - cheers mate
@Evan - you&#039;re making my head spin there bro ... 
@Amber - lucky you, (although for public record despite the &#039;born again thing&#039; my folks were lovely and loving and still are) and yes, cheers to free thought :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lola &#8211; cheers mate<br />
@Evan &#8211; you&#8217;re making my head spin there bro &#8230;<br />
@Amber &#8211; lucky you, (although for public record despite the &#8216;born again thing&#8217; my folks were lovely and loving and still are) and yes, cheers to free thought <img src='http://www.rebelzen.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Amber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Amber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 22:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>haha. I had a similar questions growing up. I am so happy I didn&#039;t have super religious parents. It really let me develop my own ideas about spirituality. My folks decided since it was shoved down their throats so much they didn&#039;t want to force my sister and I into church. Cheers to thinking for ourselves!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>haha. I had a similar questions growing up. I am so happy I didn&#8217;t have super religious parents. It really let me develop my own ideas about spirituality. My folks decided since it was shoved down their throats so much they didn&#8217;t want to force my sister and I into church. Cheers to thinking for ourselves!</p>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 10:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well relativity is relative.  E.g mass is invariably related to the speed of light in a fixed and quantifiable way.

Your fundamentalist friends hadn&#039;t read Romans (it&#039;s strange how fundamentalists neglect large parts of the Bible) about people judged by the light they have (origin of the expression &#039;according to their lights&#039;).

If truth is a fitting game, then there is relativity (what fits with what) but also invariance (no fit = no truth).

Looking forward to the next part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well relativity is relative.  E.g mass is invariably related to the speed of light in a fixed and quantifiable way.</p>
<p>Your fundamentalist friends hadn&#8217;t read Romans (it&#8217;s strange how fundamentalists neglect large parts of the Bible) about people judged by the light they have (origin of the expression &#8216;according to their lights&#8217;).</p>
<p>If truth is a fitting game, then there is relativity (what fits with what) but also invariance (no fit = no truth).</p>
<p>Looking forward to the next part.</p>
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